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![Jamal [No Name Given] and Jamie Hadwin](https://archive.storycorps.org/uploads/2022/02/622a29d822398__ddv001417_g1-450x448.jpg)
One Small Step conversation partners Jamal [No Name Given] (33) and Jamie Hadwin (35) discuss education, capitalism, and funding for public services. They also learn some similarities between their fathers.
One Small Step conversation partners Joe Marra (57) and Landon Reid (50) talk about how important their parents were to their development, the joys of both having a 5 year old and how to make some politics a win-win situation.
One Small Step conversation partners Joseph "Dennis" Delaney (84) and Jean O'Sullivan (76) connected and reminisced about days past in the Vermont Legislature. They talked about childcare, taxes, education and the Build Back Better plan.
One Small Step conversation partners Carolyn Young [no age given] and Hawwa Youngmark [no age given] discuss navigating their different identities, dealing with tragedy, their faith, and their shared love of comic books.