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34:06
Mary Heers and Katie Swain
Mary Synder Heers (76) speaks to her colleague and friend Katie Swain (30) about the many professions she has held over the years and her spirit of rebellion.
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Tim ONeill and Allan Rikkola
One Small Step conversation partners Allan Rikkola (82) and Tim ONeill (71) discuss their grandchildren, democracy and election work, the role of government, and navigating political conversations in social groups.