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Robert Bogner and Jack Llewellyn

One Small Step conversation partners Jack Llewellyn (58) and Robert Bogner (90) talk about family life, cancer among family members, the importance of work, fatherhood and love of the common man.

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Jean Skeels and Mike Ulen

One Small Step conversation partners Jean Skeels (50) and Mike Ulen (32) talk about tribalism in US politics, the harm done by labeling, and their personal political philosophies and the events and people that helped shape their ideas.