Candace Cable and Erin Popovich

CC describes her introduction to wheelchair racing in 1977 and paralympic downhill skiing in 1988. EP shares her path to swimming, starting at age 11, and her family's support.

EP speaks about her swim team experience in high school.

CC speaks about the equipment and technological advancements in her sports, and the ways she and others would bend the rules of the sports in the early days in order to challenge the regulations.

CC speaks about the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act), and how developments in sport lead to improvements in daily life, for some. EP and CC discuss the spectrum of disabilities people face, and how they can be representatives for these people. CC speaks about equity and authentic representation.

CC speaks about teaching others about disability through the lens of aging and embracing the human life cycle. CC and EP speak about "inspiration porn" and the importance of honoring people's experiences in the fight for rights. CC discusses her advocacy in the Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD).

EP and CC speak about the ADA, it's shortcomings, and the need for able-bodied people to see their stake in it. CC discusses intersectionality, allyship, and the erasure of people with disabilities in other struggles.

EP speaks about Paralympic visibility changing in recent decades. CC and EP speak about the upcoming Paralympic Games in Los Angeles, and how the presence of the games can change a host community. EP and CC share their hopes for the future.