Fumiko McKay and Emiko Schwab

Recorded January 8, 2020 Archived January 8, 2020 27:57 minutes
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Description

Fumiko McKay (88) talks with her granddaughter, Emiko Schwab (25), about what it was like to move to the US from Japan in the 1950s, her experiences with racism, and some of her memories of raising a family in the US.

Subject Log / Time Code

FM recalls when she came to the US from Japan and where she went first. She recalls learning about racism in the US.
FM recalls some incidents when she and her husband experienced racism as an interracial Japanese and black couple.
FM recalls working as a mother of 5 when her husband was away from home.
FM recalls what it was like living on military bases.
FM recalls what the major differences were between Japan and the US when she first came here.
FM reflects on not having had time to think about whether or not she felt comfortable in the US.
ES reflects on her relationship with FM.
FM recalls buying her first car.

Participants

  • Fumiko McKay
  • Emiko Schwab

Recording Locations

Downtown Santa Monica

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Transcript

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00:04 Hi, my name is emiko Schwab. I'm 25 years old today is January 8th 2024 in Santa Monica, California. This is my grandmother. Her name is fumiko McKay, and I'm her granddaughter.

00:29 My name for me, K.

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00:35 88

00:40 I had to read this.

00:44 January 8th 2020 today Santa, Monica, California

00:57 Interview partnernet

01:04 We just have my granddaughter.

01:08 Emiko Schwab

01:12 Okay, so leaving Japan. How did you feel about coming to the United States?

01:23 At that time, so I really like to come to United States.

01:32 Because what time we don't have a lot of good stuff, but go to America, maybe have a good stuff. That's why I haven't hops to come and see United States.

01:49 You came from Japan, right? What year did you win? Did you come here from Japan?

01:54 When

01:57 Oh my goodness.

02:05 My goodness, that's a long long time ago.

02:17 57 right 1957

02:23 After they were both 56.

02:27 55

02:34 That's okay. So, can you tell me a little can you tell me about when you were came here to the United States and you are having the trip over to Texas? Yes. I went to the my husband mother house voice so I stay there but

02:58 Two to three months until he had to come back her phone here. So I stay over there then.

03:11 I got them. I don't do anything to stay in mother house so sometime I go outside.

03:23 Ana stand up for waiting for my husband to come home from work.

03:30 Annoying to get bandaid. Do you know who send to husband. Divorce and the way their info?

03:39 Afternoon and come home waiting outside, you know.

03:45 So I did that same thing that I was outside then they find out my mother-in-law say don't do that. You stand up for the waiting for somebody.

04:02 That's another nice. I don't know why but he did on me. Wait. He transferred to California the camp.

04:20 So kind let's, California mother wanted to come over grass.

04:28 So three of us drive.

04:33 Ellie the car from Texas

04:37 So

04:40 Qdoba, Texas to California never stop by stay place to sleep.

04:52 I didn't know why you know, but every time. Was ham store by the foods to eat to come and eat in the car.

05:06 Then then I find out why she didn't you stop by the hotel what price to sleep because we are my husband a Dvorak they they can let him in a place. I didn't know that you know, so then not coming to California that I find that that's correctly that stuff and then there.

05:43 Toledo Blade wanton policeman stopped to give them my husband tickets, so they didn't mess with policemen. They don't know where I can men have a Japanese and they gave him and tickets.

06:11 Him, I didn't know that but I don't know why but I Came To You California then I find out too because we carry our store ain't nothing. I find out coming to California. So.

06:42 I have the same or no, it's good. It's good so far. So, can you tell me about you buying your house that you have now? Oh, yes, then my husband does not make too much money or the way. He doesn't go to overseed home all the way to go.

07:18 The Vietnam War

07:26 Yeah, then Korean conflict.

07:30 Hey, I couldn't and the older show at that time of day have a little fight something but not all the way out, but I have five cats then.

07:48 He left me fiber cats resume me, you know then not too much money. You know, I can't eat I can live just to stay in the base in anyway.

08:06 I spent the thanking future.

08:10 I need need have a blue money. So I stopped working.

08:21 Bible cakes you can Walking Company because 500k the babysitter. Then I'm making money that money going to babysitter. So I stepped you're going to walking these people have the cleanest so that way for our cleaning and the morning.

08:51 And I can come by and the next door neighbor.

08:57 She watch for me to get my kids. So so my half while working I give it to her. I start The Walking Dead and then I want to

09:13 There's a land that time 5 Academy 2 bedroom house. Okay, but the when he come back from nobody going to stay in.

09:27 Houses can have a two-bedroom movie25.ag at my husband. So I need to

09:37 Find a place to deliver. We do my husband apartment. I don't like five kids. So I need to have a house.

09:51 A way to fight with kids

09:54 But my husband enough money to buy down payment today have the house. So I I want to watch company because I work in just two house in the cleaning that they called her on the table that the money they not going to show how much money I'm making good money. But so that I can show it to them how much money I make sure I don't work at that house clean. I went to walk a company to that weight Saturday. I can tell you how much I make so I set the walking CF company recruiting me.

10:49 So then that can able to have a house to buy so I start the looking for the house.

11:00 So why do I moan walking then you go to Sears company icing it nicer house with a Beat It by this he is. So I like to have nice and clean. So I went to the place for free. I like to have in the house then they stopped.

11:31 Find out the my husband's YouTube rack. They don't want Sarah house and I said High School bracket people. I think you're on your way so that they ain't nothing nice to me, you know so that but instead I want a house of that area and I'm nice then I work in these chairs.

11:54 Then that I took so much it hurts.

12:00 So I meant TV.

12:07 He Warden is a sales office. Is he walking or are you working here? So I can I ask you a question about the house then I throw to my husband that he the rack they not going to sell it to me so I can I have at the house if that's okay for me to go Dome voting the your husband. You just come to him to give you a call the kind of paperwork to me.

12:42 Then he can sign.

12:45 Show okay. So every time I let you know that paper I gave me a buddy and he signed the voting and by and finally

12:57 You know right thing it's a we can have the house. Do you know he have two last things that he can do that, you know, so they have no choice to they sell a house. That's the house. I have enough rice house for that. Idiot, you know, then I have it your house sign it then

13:31 Holy movie, and they don't like all the never don't like where I can come in there or the Hawaii, you know so sooner, but he never there Nixon ever decide out. My husband don't care about, you know, we still have the house until you and I grabbed to have it that way. You know, so I always like that story always good at telling you to

14:13 Did you have friends from Japan that we're here in that came to America 2 or did you make a lot of did you make most of your friends here?

14:23 Different than what the friends that you have are the ones that my mom grew up with who are also military like they were they were

14:38 You had friends that you that came to America to that you knew in Japan right now.

14:48 Good. Goodey, people pass away age was still I know Brent almost crossing my egg. Yeah. I haven't I might go to them to you. What was it like living on the base for you living on different phases for you?

15:13 Bass bass

15:19 Only the base area is only Japanese. So that that's all that time. Nobody Drive. Nobody speak English, but I'm over the girl. She didn't have a kids. So she stopped to find out to see stats drive to go to work.

16:01 Didn't make a stack of making money by babysitter for somebody else kids that make a little money. That's the way I live in base.

16:29 Can you tell me what was something that you noticed right away that was different in America than in Japan back then?

16:39 Na-8 the difference when you can or that was different in America than in Japan have that time.. I'm okay. I came to United States. Don't need nine Palm. I will let you know I come for your B-day price all of that for some time to come to you and I state that price of dessert now. He's a busy but there's nothing there so and I have

17:18 My son

17:21 And

17:24 2 months pregnant I bring my door at C&I state so my son is a egg.

17:37 So when the day and so many people in

17:46 That area and the desert, you know.

17:51 Date code of Joshua Joshua Tree

18:01 My son to box of them. I think outside to pee on the outside, you know, they do that but never people doing so they talk if I had them and don't take your SATs our sides of the people did you been doing this is not a gift.

18:42 That's a really tell me a lot of things different and yet.

18:59 Can you tell me about?

19:02 When did you start to feel comfortable living in the United States?

19:08 When I pick up what did you start to feel comfortable living in the United States?

19:18 I don't I don't know. I was getting this so busy. He going to I have a 5 of kids on the home. I don't think about it too much then not enough money. My husband to go over t

19:39 Tell your time little money. So I

19:46 Now everybody know they call Kapil doodle everybody. That's a good food there for us for you and thinking how sure you don't have a kind of being too comfortable if I forget my habit of going to oversee, but good thing. That's why we can't dilate. That's why I stopped speaking English. I pick it up because kids go to school. That's why I pick it up all the English. I don't have to go to school to pick it up speaker English.

20:46 That's a good thing. I have kids don't you think? So now you and I hang out all the time.

20:57 You when I get to hang out all the time. Yes, so I have a 5 of the kids and I were on that and the my daughter had to 5821 it take care of me clinic. So I have four boys the $1. This is the $1. I have five kids so I boy don't do anything. You know, they are, you know making mess so I told her that if you marry you better not having the boy, I won't go see have my daughter have with two girl.

21:40 Like for me so I know that's daughter granddaughter like here. So take care of me to granddaughter I have now I was so lucky to have everybody knows that like during the week. They all say hello. I'm going to have options house just because you're literally my best one of my best friends and will

22:14 Wake up and do or like I'll come over in the morning to do radio taiso with her, which is this Japanese exercise program that will do sometimes and something interesting that happened is we were talking about there was a

22:32 Like a report that I had to do for nursing school, and then I taught everybody radio taiso and it's just a big you're very important to me in my life. And I always I'm inspired by you and everything that in the positivity that you keep through everything that you've been through is absolutely inspiring and I hope to be like you throughout my life and

23:01 I'm just so grateful for you. So my grandchildren like she already come.

23:09 Takes to walk exercise, you know most time. I stay taking up there watching TV. So that's not nice. Is he taking you all called? That's then they are you all still drivable ricin, you know, so I need to study now. I have a headache here, but she already come teaching me how to study of that stuff. So I'm so glad to have grandchildren are you know?

23:45 That's just that whenever she all the ways you take care of me, you know.

23:56 Can you tell me about the first time when you bought your car?

24:01 When you bought your first car.

24:06 Voice car

24:13 That. That's a long time ago that time they don't need to see cover and seat belt cover and that's it matter how many they get in Uno.

24:37 I have my religion thing. They're going to meeting the president show, but most of the people they don't have a car and my husband left to direct me to call. You know, I used my car to go to Los Angeles at the meeting.

25:05 Doesn't matter how many get in there and the Japanese are going to do some more in there that time, you know, not too many people have a money. So 25% each give me the gas money. You know that I'm 25, and then we have I don't know how many people get in there and then one time I start the walking you said in a company and then then they call me.

25:51 I'm glad you better go home. Your son have a trouble then that one at home my

26:02 I have in my car and I left of my husband the car to you know, so my oldest son drive to get in the neighborhood Drive Aurora supposed to be the good guy.

26:37 8

26:41 13 get in trouble. I think you're my oldest son in the Navy for the kids, but there's not too much trouble.

27:25 Is there anything else you want to talk about it Bundchen? No, no. No. Thank you so much about you and thank you for having this conversation with me me to thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.