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Carolyn Cacho Bowman and Robert Shwab
One Small Step conversation partners Carolyn Cacho-Bowman [no age given] and Robert Shwab (65) talk about their political beliefs, immigration, and the division in our country.
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Jeff Ikeda and Kern Smith
Jeff Ikeda (36) and One Small Step partner Kern Smith (52) exchange experiences and lessons they have faced on the intersectionality of their cultural and racial identity in or outside of the U.S.