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Michael Lyons and David Hoffman
One Small Step conversation partners Michael Lyons (71) and David Hoffman [no age given] talk about their careers, the importance of family, and the difficulty of talking about politics in the current era of political divisiveness.
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Allison Briscoe-Smith and Sue Lani Madsen
One Small Step conversation partners Allison Briscoe-Smith (46) and Sue Lani Madsen (67) talk about how political labels and identity labels don't always get to the nuance of a person, and share stories about how they're teaching the younger generations...