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Harry Frieze and Phillip Journey

One Small Step conversation partners Harry "Jess" Frieze (75) and Phillip Journey (64) discuss guns, pragmatism in politics, family businesses, the American Dream.

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Mohamed Shoreibah and Lynda Wilson

One Small Step conversation partners Mohamed Shoreibah (47) and Lynda Wilson (72) discuss immigration, political misinformation, Birmingham's history of racism and political struggle, and their hopes for its future.

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Luke Catlin and Jaclyn McAnarney

One Small Step conversation partners Luke Catlin (49) and Jaclyn McAnarney (35) talk about fearing what we don't know, the wisdom of being uncertain, patriarchy, being a true patriot, and "following the money."