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Barbara Kates and Douglas Nye

One Small Step conversation partners Douglas "Doug" Nye (74) and Barbara Kates (69) talk about religion and spiritual life, the Back to the Land Movement, sobriety, activism, differences in views on government, and hopes for their future generations.

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Kaitlyn McMurtry and Richard Kirkpatrick

One Small Step conversation partners Kaitlyn "Katie" McMurtry (30) and Richard "Rick" Kirkpatrick (63) talk about their traumatic experiences. They share thoughts about religion and the roles of the government.