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Luke Catlin and Jaclyn McAnarney

One Small Step conversation partners Luke Catlin (49) and Jaclyn McAnarney (35) talk about fearing what we don't know, the wisdom of being uncertain, patriarchy, being a true patriot, and "following the money."

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Kelley Nelson and Franklin Strum

One Small Step conversation partners Kelley Nelson (62) and Franklin Strum (39) talk about the media's impact on people's understanding of politics and truth, politicians, and how we might come together or stay divided.